in conversation (from my Facebook page)

“Thanks John, yes it’s not a matter of “flat” vs. “sphere”. Anomalies and inconsistencies have been discovered in the current orthodox “globe” consensus model, and it seems we must revise our fundamental concept of what this Earth really is. It seems so crazy to most people – I am acutely aware of this. It fascinates me on many levels as a long-time student of human behaviour via both a psychological and sociological lens. This new and crazy topic just rips everything apart and opens a new chapter in human understanding. Few yet realise the significance of it. Most still laugh it off and mock the very idea. They have not thought deeply enough about it yet. They have not been willing to get past their incredulity, their reflex to laugh and mock, or their cherished and ingrained beliefs in what they assume is “settled science”. It is always refreshing and encouraging to have other thinkers alongside who do ‘get’ the ramifications and implications of this important topic. It is a matter of truth.”

Discussions on the Flat Earth

Thoughts on the true nature of this realm and the path of truth.

Why do I believe in flat earth?


[a response to a query on Facebook I wrote in 2018]

A fair question. I am time limited here now but I’ll explain briefly.

Firstly there are pitfalls when asked this question (especially by one who appears a little hostile to the idea).   ok…

1. We need examine the nature of knowledge and what constitutes it.
2. I may just as equally ask YOU the same question why you believe in a globe earth. 4 Your question comes from an orthodox standpoint which holds assumptions.
3. Your stance assumes you hold truth and I must “prove” what I have come to believe.
4. You believe you do not have beliefs.
5 This fact establishes an unfair playing field.
6. I started as a sceptic to flat earth (as do most serious converts).
7. I tried to debunk it.
8. You assume that ‘math’ and ‘physics’ can prove reality.
9. you covet certain truths as axiomatic.
10. You hold an orthodox science bias which you cannot extract from in order that new information which conflicts with your paradigm is not considered and tends to be mocked and ridiculed
11. this is a psychological fact known as cognitive dissonance.
12. Actual science is proving that NO curvature OR motion of the earth in space is evident.
13. by actual science – I refer to science based truthfully on an unbiased or skewed application of the scientific method – empirical repeatable observation and measurement.
14. Funded academic science has become untrustworthy due to inherent corruption from funding sources, group think (peer review and career sustaining – nobody will go against orthodox paradigms), science has become path dependant upon previous theory.
15. ‘flat Earth’ has become a timely test of the true ability of human consciousness to break out of moulds which have restricted thinking and stagnated human advancement due to exploitative human systems (eg finance and social control).
16. Science is NOT the incorruptible and pure path to Truth that its proponents pretend – human judgement and fallibility does indeed factor significantly.
17. I come from a varied educated (some science) background. I am and always have been an “open-source thinker” (this helps adopting new concepts rather than clinging to old ones).
18. IF we continue to demand “proof” that fits our biases we begin a path of self-deception and this has factored into human scientific thinking
19. I spent 12 months researching the SERIOUS data coming to light
20. I cannot here sum that for your perusal.
21. I have done some of my OWN experiments and observations based on current math and understanding and found it does NOT hold truth empirically – eg NO curve is observable across a large body of water near where I live – almost 50 km and a city skyline can be measurably observed to NOT fall below the predicted earth curve (math based). We can see too far across the Earth – now high-powered optics available to a wide range of people who are discovering this fact – again empirical observation conflicts with academic orthodox assumptions we are taught and told (beliefs).
Many other anomalies are coming to light and you need to investigate seriously and with an open mind free of the above biases. Hope this gives insight.

Flat Earth

Humans need a shake up of their foundations. In every way possible. Flat Earth does that. Watch how it separates the types of thinkers. It’s fascinating.

People get so worked up and passionate – and all over a thing so accepted as a given that it seems absurd, laughable, stupid.

“Everybody knows it’s round retard!” they shout on the YouTube threads as they bay for blood and cast out the heretics.

The actual truth is that nobody really knows. Everything about this phenomenon is intriguing.

It’s a precursor of things to come. It matters of course what the truth of it is, and the implications of a grand lie on this level would be unfathomable.

But in a sense the real test is siimply in the way people approach such “attacks” on their basic beliefs. Right or wrong isn’t the issue – it is the willingness to listen to new information and remain open minded but critical – which will be of importance. Most people seem to have a burning need to justify their beliefs and to “prove” their superiority and command of truth.

Dangerous ways indeed.

Expect your world to be shaken to pieces soon – over more than just the shape of the planet.

Hold on tight. Free thinking brave souls with critical mind’s and love and faith in their hearts will do well as we go forward now.



The implications of a collasal lie upon the people would be monumental if the truth were that it is indeed flat – of this there is no question. it is a fundamental humans hold as accepted and known. it is in the detachment from this “safety zone of the known” which will be critical as we go forward.